No dew claws, is he still legit?

by Ashley Gierzak

We purchased a sweet great Pyrenees today from a breeder with no papers as we were looking for a companion dog not a piece of paper.

He checks out on breed specifications except he had no double dew claws and while I'm not sure of exactly how big he should be at 8 weeks under all that fluff was a dog with the build of a Chihuahua.

We already love the little guy and that won't change if he's not a purebred, we have 2 amazing mutts already, but I will be fairly upset if I was lied to and paid $350 for a stretch of the truth. How big should he be at 8 weeks and does the lack of a double dew claws means he's mixed with another breed?

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Jul 05, 2014
Breed Standard Says Double Dewclaws A Must Have
by: Frank

The breed standard for Great Pyrenees states it must have double dewclaws. The absence of double dewclaws indicates it is not pure bred.

Conversely, the presence of double dewclaws does not guarantee that it is a pure bred Great Pry, since other breeds also have double dewclaws. All of this to say that absence of double dewclaws is evidence that your puppy is not a purebred Great Pyr.

The breed standard can be found on this site. Look on the navigation bar on the left for Breed Standard.

Regarding the weight of your puppy… our Great Pry weighed in excess of 20 pounds at 8 weeks of age. And under his coat was a miniature version of his adult body, certainly not the body of a Chihuahua by any stretch of the imagination. His adult weight was 128 pounds. Enjoy your new puppy. No doubt he has found a happy home to call his own.

Jul 05, 2014
don't get to wrapped up in pure breed
by: Ed New Jersey

First and foremost he is a beautiful guy. I would ask if the claws then self are missing or the whole fleashy part and the claws? Next thing is he seems to have a lot of color for a Pyrenees. Even with that being said he can still be a Pyrenees. I find it hard to believe it could not be a birth defect. If it means that much to you spend the $40 to $60 for a DNA test. I have found that every governing body has a bit different outline. Of course some things remain the same, dew claws, slight color marking and basic body styles. I was crazy about do research when I first got Beau. So I did the DNA, checked all the descriptions and even traced him back to his breeder.I found out he is all pyre and still to this day some well meaning expert will tell me he is to big, his head is to broad , or some other problem. He is all pyre but let me tell you what else he is, the best dam dog I ever had or met.breed standard is great but every dog is not meant to be a show dog. As I said he is beautiful and I promise by the time he is one or two he will be a big beautiful dog and you will have all ready got your moneys worth. Look at that puppy and ask yourself what else you need. Now when those well meaning experts question why my beau is so big or his head so broad I just say " I guess I just got lucky! And judgeing from the picture of your little baby, so did you.

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