Puppies died

by Kim hurd
(Hazard ky)

We just had 8 puppies born yesterday and 3 died last night. Are they hard to raise or are we doing something wrong. We have her a secure place on the porch we moved them from day one she had them in the woods and we moved them because we have coyotes. Is that maybe why 3 died. We are heartbroken?

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Oct 05, 2017
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by: Anonymous

It seems you don't know what you are doing in raising these pups. Spay her before you put her through this, again.

If you want to raise pups, again, talk to an ethical/reputable breeder about how to do this so the mom and pups don't die or go through such a trauma.

Your porch could not have been secure or she wouldn't have had them in the woods.

You would have known when she was close to having the pups and kept her inside in a proper whelping pen. Perhaps she accidentally lay on them and smothered them. Perhaps she is too old to have them. Perhaps she didn't have the proper nutrition to be able to carry pups through to birth.

Did you take her to the vet for checkups and advice? Did you have an ultrasound done to see if the breeding took? Did you have her x-rayed to make sure everything was fine?

You should have been there with her 24/7 before she had the pups and then you would have needed to be with her 24/7 for the next three weeks to ensure all pups had their fill in feedings and that the mom was comfortable.

Have her spayed.
Oct 05, 2017
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by: Ed A. From NJ

Please don't breed if you don't know how. It causes heart ache all around. Plus you are crating puppies without first securing homes. You lack of knowledge is glaring. I doubt they are registered so no papers make them even harder to place. There are enough puppies in shelters
Oct 06, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Thank you to you so called experts, my dogs are very well loved, taken care of and fed more than enough. It was her first litter and I was just looking for a little advice. Thanks to you non caring self righteous ones who ( I assume ) are wanna be do gooders. But wait a minute, maybe I shouldn't assume, just like you shouldn't assume to know about the health, the nutrition and the safety of my animals. I thought this was a place to ask questions and maybe learn a little more about my animals that I couldn't read, owners are usually better to learn from, but I guess not from here. Thanks anyway.
Oct 08, 2017
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starstarstarstarstar 		Such an unkind response
by: Anonymous

I agree with anonymous! There are ways to say things and the more professional you truly are the more you know about etiquette and how to tactfully approach a person even when a person needs redirecting or correcting. What a turn off.I would imagine Anonymous felt bad enough that three of her puppies died not needing you to go behind that already painful situation and condemn and judge. There are ways to say things you all seem to stand on a soapbox saying spay,spay, and that is the truth to keep unwanted animals from suffering however when a puppy is already here it would have been nice for you to give direction and solutions instead of just coming across so critically. Don't kick a man when he is already down...
Oct 11, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Just another reader here. Not a spokesperson for this site.
This posting gave very little info other than 8 pups were born, you moved them from the place the mother dog chose to birth them and some pups died. If you were looking for compassion for yourself, your own friends and family are there to fulfill that role.
Compassion FOR THE DOGS, is why these pages exist. Period. There is a wealth of experience in rescue, breeding knowledge from registered breeders, trainers and vet advise behind the answer you asked for and were given.
There are thousands of stories just like yours out there. It's why rescue exists. If you had known what you were doing, you would have known that interfering with a first time mama in any way is a no-no. Its too bad the pups died. How you feel about that is beside the point.
Just realise that there is much more to caring for your female while she carries, gives birth, cares for and finally weans than you seem to have experience with.
You had 9 dogs after the birth, you are left with 6. If they all stay un-spayed and un-neutered, in a very short space of time you will potentially be responsible for 60 +_ more dogs born with dubious genetics. Most of them will end up in rescue, and lucky if they do not end up there totally traumatised from abuse, sick or near death from neglect.
I hope you can stop feeling sorry for yourself long enough to really think about this.
Oct 24, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Can people be any more judgemental???? This person asked for a little advice, not your condescension. No one knows everything about the breed and none of you know anything about this person. Stop judging her ability or inability, which ever the case may be. If you can't offer support then please keep your comments to yourself.
Nov 14, 2017
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by: Anonymous

Just from the response this poor person received . I would never ask one and I would never trust anything on this page talk about rotten mean spirited people. You didn't help anyone by your attitude. Your so miserable that you ooze nothing but hatred in your response.
Nov 19, 2017
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by: Anonymous

I am very sorry to hear of the problems you have had. I worked with a very experienced breeder for a few years where the dogs were all farm raised. Even with a "proper" whelping box and monitoring seasoned breeders, it was not uncommon to loose a few in the first 2 weeks. Most often it was the mother sitting or laying on them but some times the female would push a pup away for no apparent reason. It hurts to loose even 1 pup. But when dealing with giant breeds and large litters it happens. The most important thing to do is concentrate your attention on the mom and the pups you have. Things happen for a reason, we just may not see it. The pups could have had something wrong that the mother sensed and nature deals with it. It is when humans start to interfere too much that we get unsound animals. I know I sound harsh but not every being should be "saved". Just because we can does not mean we should. Trust nature and do your best and let the critics words roll off. Best of luck.
Feb 28, 2018
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by: Anonymous

1st. Take dog and ALL qestions To VET
For a check up
2nd.have a EMERGENCY PLAN & PLENTY OF MONEY FOR A EMERGENCY C SECTION OR ANY OTHER EMERGENCY.... AFTER MOTHER IS PREGNANT AND IT IS OK I
TO HAVE A ALTRA SOUND DO IT DANG..
3rd.have a safe warm place INSIDE SO YOU CAN KEEP A EYE ON MOTHER AND BABIES AT L TIMES...
4TH. Get a safe and warm bedding THERMOMETER clean towels all the things you would need IF YOU HAD TO HELP..
AND WHY WOD YOU THINK U KNLW MORE THAN THE MOTHER YOU MOVED MOVED HER FROM WHERE SHE WANTED TO HAVE THEM REALLY..
THANK YOU TO THE person WHO WAS ANSWERING UR QESTIONS.. WHATEVER HAPPENED SHOULDNT HAVE LADY AND IF U DONTIKE WHAT THEY TOLD U TOUGH J WERE WRONG AND NOT PRELARED AT ALL...

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