Masters NOT slaves.

by Huey T
(Heavens know where)


A truly intelligent species doesn't necessary mean a "blind obedience" (per me).

We are a family newly owned (2 months only) by our belove great pyr who is but 5 months old and this story is written about this great pyr by the name of "Roman" (dubbed by daughter) or "the Romeo" of the gals of this family, or "Romano" cheese when he is "pigging" for food (and what a real cheese connoisseur he is).

The day we drove Roman from his mom is when he is about 11+ weeks old. He is crying and pawing sadly being taken away in a SUV. Through the rear view mirror, we see his mommy chasing along the fence line (superior hearing of course) to see her son off, and what a sad scene indeed.

Roman is from a small litter of only 2 babies and very tightly bonded to his mom I heard, probably still on mom's milk with a very new introduction to kibbles, can't even chew too well when he is brought home.

That day we brought him home is also the same day Roman learned how to "sit"; learn in less than a day or in a car trip home. This is still his most practiced command, but he'll sit for just about anything even before the command is issued. Later, we would combined this voice command along with hand signal too... and he reacts very well to both voice & hand commands now. I will also add that most commands it took him less than 3 times to fully grasp its meaning... seriously. Now after so many times of "practicing" & him getting bored... is only when he would be "turned off" & refusing to further participate in this "below his IQ" nonsense (per him of course).

The reason why I wanted to write this story and the title will be for the below reasons that only just happened (and before I forget due to my own lack of memory)...
-Also as we all know (in our hearts) how "unfairly" intelligence-wise the dog breed groups have ranked out dearest great pyr with the so-called obedience tests...

Just last night, with my daughter looking on when hubby is brushing up on training Roman with his absolute favorite bacon treat, Roman have done (sit, shake and both paws now mind you... plus the newly learned down) "in a flash" even before my hubby issued any commands or can register what has just happened with daughter giggling on the back ground and Roman looking up "expectantly" asking "now where is my bacon?" at hubby.

Yes... Our dear great pyr has chosen to perform all 3 "tricks" at once without being asked to as if to say... "OK, lets get on with all this nonsense now lets get straight to the point = treat."

Hmmmph... not a smart breed are they???

P.S. Maybe just a bit too smart to listen to us humans after all.


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Dec 17, 2012
Pyrs Are Very Intelligent
by: Frank

That's a great story. Thanks for sharing it with us. Sounds like Roman is a very food motivated Pyr... and becoming a well trained one as well. Good for you in doing this very necessary work.

Anyone who has owned (or been owned by) a Pyr will tell you they are very intelligent dogs. Most Pyr owners will tell you that "other" dog breed owners don't know much, if anything, about Pyrs. They think that because a Pyr does not act like an "average" dog, the Pyr must be stupid.

We know that's not so and it is interesting that you have already seen how quickly they become bored. It's amazing just how quickly they can "forget" when there is nothing in it for them.

Beware... Pyrs are also very good at training their human companions, so keep a steady hand. be consistent, mix up your routine and give lots of love.

And don't forget to share more of your experiences with Roman right here on this site.

Dec 17, 2012
bored easily
by: Huey

Thanks for the comment Frank and I read many of your stories (thanks for the many inspirations here on this site; so many thanks Frank & also the bear story & all the other contributors on this site) through our few month long research before jumping in for our Pyr.

We had wanted a GSD first (both hubby and me had a GSD or a GSD mix at one time of our lives growing up) and had our eye on a GSD / great pyr mix rescue but they were all adopted.

Hubby & I researched the great pyr side of the mix and we are hands down "wowed" by the great pyr breed.

Getting bored is a sure sign of intelligence.
My daughter an avid reader got bored with her toddler books after she started to read on her own and we had to switch to harder & more interesting read to up her level when she is around 5 or 6 (the red fairy tale book I remember).

So for any dog breed to actually be bored with repeat training I can relate alike to a child... their "quest" to satisfy that curiosity is how a great mind work. Those thousands of years of lineage & brain development is not to be under estimated in a breed either.

And least to say of the great pyr's "memory" which I highly respect (since I am losing mine "memory-wise" getting older I guess; I use to have great memory so I am sorta jealous I might add... lol).

Just glad to say we have found Roman and him us.
We also have a cat, so having a "cat-like" dog is not so strange to us at all.

Where humans = slaves (per my cat).
And yes, Roman do know how to push our buttons indeed (the naughtiness aka "I'm going to outsmart you" is in his eyes alrite).

Dec 21, 2012
Romeo, Romeo.....
by: Martha

IT is easy to be fooled at first.....such a beautiful puppy, so adorable and a bit clumsey....well, and perhaps a bit daft? NO! If you fall for the "big dumb oaf" routine you are done!

And you are so right about being "bored" with us and our "dog training techniques". That's one of the reasons I started teaching hand signals to our Pyr. Like Romeo (Roman), our Great Pyr Frank will do almost anything for a tasty morsel. And like Romeo, she also anticipates and sometimes will just start her "routine" of sit, shake a paw, shake the other paw, up (hug), etc. when she hears the rustle of the chicken treat bag!

Anyway, if the general public wants to consider my Pyr "unintelligent", so be it. We (as in Pyr lovers and owners far and wide) know better.


Mar 16, 2013
Another ode to how adorably smart the breed is.
by: HTan

Great Pyrs are well known "stubborn" dogs, very very stubborn indeed in fact. Everything has to be their idea and Roman is that ideal example for that.

When we first got him, we also got one of those pinch collars beside the leather one we bought... for training purposes we thought.

But we put it on him to try only twice... and each time he fought us for what we wanted him to do like walk nicely. He walked nicely when we removed it... seems he understood but just wanted nothing to do with that dreadful collar. Needless to say, we never ever used that prong collar again... in a weird way, it seems Roman respected us for it.

Just another instant about "his way"...

Roman loves hanging out with me his mama, after all I stay home with him all day long except on the couple of days I work or go out to the burbs to do chores like grocery, doctor, errands & such. I bring him sometimes but sometimes just like the time management better without him. During those times when working or errand running, he is crated.

Just like today...

I basically told him after the morning routine of letting him out & then asking him to come in that mommy & daddy is going to "work" & going "bye-bye"... looked him in the eye when saying that with a treat in my hand.

(Usually he'll take the treat & run downstairs to the family room to sit by me & lounge while "guarding" his momma)

He is so smart he totally understood what we wanted of him. He went downstairs but instead of going to the sofa, he went in his crate "begrudgingly" of course but all of his own free will, took the treat & let hubby lock him in.

Oh what a good boy he is.
And this is not the first time he did this.

At 8 months old, Roman is the smartest dog I have ever come to know (I only ever owned one as "mine" but do come across many other dogs).

I am just so proud of him.

So, ode to the breed, and an advise for the heart, make sure it is "their idea". Give them the respect of how smart they can actually be!


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